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Sarah Paine

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

I think the Chinese would beg to differ and say, no, no, no, no.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

It was Mao who played the America card.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

Because what's going on in 1969, there's a border war between China and the Soviet Union.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

China's gotten its nuclear bomb in 64.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

It no longer has to defer to the Soviet Union and starts playing more tough on their border disagreements.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

And so the Soviets are really upset.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

And they come to the United States and ask us whether it would be okay to nuke these people.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

Because they think Americans don't like the Chinese.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

Well, we didn't, but we said, no, it's not okay to nuke those people.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

And so the Chinese figure it out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

The one that wants to nuke you is your primary adversary, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

Up until then, you think about it, China and Russia, for them, the United States was the primary adversary.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

Now they're primary adversaries with each other, freeing up the United States to decide which one it's going to cozy up to.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

And the United States decides it's going to cozy up to China.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

Why?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

Well,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

Chinese belligerency forces the Soviets, not only, they've already got a big militarized border with Europe.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

Now they're going to do the same thing on a very long border with China.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

And this is nuclear-armed, mechanized forces, very expensive.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

Imagine if this country had to have such borders with Canada and Mexico.