Sarah Smarsh

in the politics, but it's instead going to the foundation, the ground level of that person's experience and saying, I see it, I validate it, and now let's build from there. And because it's in the lack of validation or being seen that those nastier permutations of the politics are enabled and manipulated.

in the politics, but it's instead going to the foundation, the ground level of that person's experience and saying, I see it, I validate it, and now let's build from there. And because it's in the lack of validation or being seen that those nastier permutations of the politics are enabled and manipulated.

Well, and you might even start with speaking to the millions of white working class people who aren't Trumpers. Believe it or not, they're out there. My family are among them. And make inroads in those communities and allow that to spread out. You know, I'm not a political strategist, but I know you got to go there and you got to talk to that group of people. And they've got some real concerns.

Well, and you might even start with speaking to the millions of white working class people who aren't Trumpers. Believe it or not, they're out there. My family are among them. And make inroads in those communities and allow that to spread out. You know, I'm not a political strategist, but I know you got to go there and you got to talk to that group of people. And they've got some real concerns.

Thank you, John.

Thank you, John.