Sari Botton

That's another thing.

It's hard to know.

Interesting.

Interesting.

That's an interesting question.

I've never even contemplated that.

But it is hard to know what you want.

I think it's even harder for women because there are so many shoulds that we are exposed to and have been historically.

You know, it was really hard for me to allow myself to know that I didn't want to be a mom.

I think that deep down I knew.

but I put myself and my husband through hell, like fertility crap, you know, before,

You know, we found out that I was literally incapable of carrying a baby to term, and it was the biggest relief.

But I had a very hard time knowing that I didn't want children because I thought I should want children.

I didn't think there was the whatever possibility of two adults living in a house that they treat as an arts camp, which is whatever.

Right.

Should is, well, you're this age and you should be a mother because everyone's a mother.

Everyone has children.

You know, especially people who are married, you know, straight cis people have children.

That's what people do.

They carry on the family name.