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But I'm not going to go to the police because I'm in a custody battle with this woman who's trying to, you know, take my child away from me.

i.e.

Linda, if I go to the police and say, my other child has been molested by this man who I've allowed him to hang out with, maybe she's worried little John will also be taken away from her and Katie will never come back into her care.

So I think it's naive to just blanket blame her for why she didn't do this.

But it's really not a good thing that happens because everything just gets so much worse.

Yeah, because one of the things I was surprised about with this case is it's a very, like, remarkable story at the end because, as we said, Katie survives.

But the media frenzy starts way before that.

The media frenzy starts almost as soon as Katie disappears.

I was surprised because she isn't from an affluent hometown.

She's, you know, very much from like an impoverished community.

I was surprised that the media was so interested in her story so young.

She's an adorable little girl and I'm sure that did help.

But I think in a way, this was kind of like a Jerry Springer disappearance.

I see.

There's a lot.

There's a feeling I have that this was very much linked to like poverty porn of looking in at this case from outside, like across the US and be like, oh, look at all these horrible, grubby people in Katie's life.

Which one of them did it?

Like Shadow Matthews.

Yeah, absolutely.

And like...