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What's your response to how Australians are feeling when it comes to things like interest rate rises and banks choosing to maybe pass that on to customers, but not in the savings department, only when it comes to mortgages or home loans?

What role can the banks play in making that better?

Returning to the Sense of Us report and changing pace a little bit, something that stood out to me was Australians prioritising joy in their spending.

Now,

I think this is great.

Personally, I'm a big fan of live your best life.

But is it the new avo toast?

Is it, you know, this is the reason why Australians can't buy a house is because they do prioritise joy spending.

They're not buckling down and saving every single penny.

You know, they want to go and join the most expensive gym or go to the movies every weekend.

Like,

Do we need to buckle down more?

And just quickly, Mel, before we let you go, do you think, based on what we've seen in this report, it's not so much the Australian dream has changed.

We still want home ownership.

A lot of us still want to

you know, maybe get married or settle down with a partner, a lifelong partner, maybe have some kids.

That still exists.

It's just the method that we get there.

Do you think that has permanently shifted now?

Melanie Evans, thank you for joining us on The Briefing.