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And I wouldn't be shocked at all if he ends up going third or fourth overall, perhaps even slightly higher if somebody surprises us.
It's a safe pick for somebody that can pick that guy and say, well, he's a second-line center.
He's going to play 500 games in the NHL.
Yeah, it's going to be really fascinating.
Quickly, before we let you go, on Chase Reed, in light of the production levels being inflated this year, and I'm not saying his production has been poor, but it's not quite at the level of, say, a Carl's and some of the other guys.
Does that give us any pause that as much as we're projecting Chase Reed to be this great offensive juggernaut, that the numbers perhaps are not as impressive as we would assume?
Tony, listen, man, always appreciate your time.
Thanks so much for this, and we'll chat with you again soon.
We're just over a month and a half away.
That's Tony Ferrari, the hockey news covering the NHL draft and its prospects.
And yeah, it's coming up pretty quick, coming up quick.
And, you know, we were discussing the whole trade down thing.
I'd love to see a trade down, but he's right.
I mean, generally, they don't happen a ton in the NHL.
And we're always hopeful that it does change at some point.