Satiar Shah

It's just being ready to empower people that other people wouldn't be as willing to give an opportunity to right away.

And the easiest way to look at that is the nerds, right?

But it's not just that.

I think that obviously they found some really smart people like Tulsky and they found other people in the NFL league.

department, but they've also found people that are really good with the eye test and empower them with more decision making as well.

So I think the thing is, find intelligent, smart people early and give them opportunities.

And we always, I know there's the talk of budget has been a big one here in Vancouver and it's hilarious looking at Carolina because Carolina is the one people point to and say, do the Carolina model.

And Carolina model

one that's very tight on the budget in many different ways they spend what 10 or 12 million under the cap yeah they're not one of the highest spending teams behind the scenes either there are a lot of things that they cut corners on that i think people would be shocked about if they found out over time but they won the cup let them celebrate it's all good but the point being they're a team that's not afraid of cutting corners financially but still finding the next

wave of individuals.

And I think when you look at Vancouver, and this is going to be the question, are the people they brought in like Ferguson, Seeley in the front office, are they the next wave of intelligent people?

And some do point to them as being very intelligent and people that deserve an opportunity that could really do something with it.

Are you looking at it as following a similar model in that sense and also finding people

in your analytics department, your research and development departments that are very intelligent and perhaps have a lot of ability, but may not have the background on hockey to that extent where they would get the opportunity in the first place.

Now, that's something we haven't seen built out, but that to me is the biggest lesson here is that

And don't get caught up in this vortex of just go after the hockey people that the NHL tells you to go after, NHLPL suggests, that agents talk about.

Once you cut through that noise, I think you can find a lot of gold.

And I think that's what Carolina did so well.

Yeah, and it's also having a clear identity.

One thing that has been talked about in Carolina for so long under Rod Brindamore, and even for a while criticized, and I was amongst those asking some questions about, are they too rigid in terms of how they play?