Satyar Shah

Two and two.

So like you're even on the people.

And then you had Ryan Johnson elevated from AGM to GM.

And now Darren Hermiston's coming in to be the director of player personnel and player development.

He does not, however, have an AGM title.

The Canucks still seem to be searching for another AGM.

especially with the idea of somebody being the GM of the Abbey Canucks.

Now, could that be an internal promotion?

Could whoever else is coming in be the Abbey Canucks GM?

That to me is the next order of business that I'm looking for here is you got somebody in for player personnel.

I think that's good.

I think adding more people to the front office is positive.

Exactly.

And I think what happened was you had Ryan Johnson and Cammie Granato take line share of that, and also Patrick Galvin, of course, being involved.

And it seemed like at some point last year, and...

Rutherford himself mentioned how Patrick Alvin had so much on his plate that he asked Rutherford to take over the Quinn Hughes file.

So I do think that...

Patrick Alvin was doing a number of different things in terms of his responsibilities.

And I'm not saying he didn't have time to handle the Quinn Hughes thing.

We all kind of know what happened there.