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Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ.

We are talking about that heartbreaking interview Savannah Guthrie gave today.

She sat down with Hoda Kotb and talked about the moments that she and her three siblings have been dealing with when they first found out that her mom went missing, but certainly the aftermath, what it was like for them while they were holed up in several houses, moving around, trying to avoid folks who she said were not that respectful, but all the while,

praying, hoping that their mom would be found, that they would be able to make some sense of this just mystery.

And all of those ransom notes, no one could figure out where they were coming from, how many there were.

It was very confusing.

And she did say that most, it was her understanding that most of the ransom notes were not real except for two.

She, again, she believes two were, but she didn't confirm and wrote.

It became clear to me throughout that she doesn't know for sure, but she said that the ones that we saw them at least two times in videos where they were directly addressing a potential kidnapper.