Sayash Kapoor

And we do too.

Now, within that discourse as well, there's this huge spectrum of opinions, right?

Like even just between the two of us, I think AI will be as impactful as the internet.

Daniel perhaps thinks this is the most important invention in the history of humanity.

And how do you put yourselves on that spectrum?

So this was the debate that we felt was really worth having.

We're not interested in the takes of people who think there's nothing to see here.

We actively sort of distance ourselves from that, let's say, in the first paragraph of the essay in a lot of our writing.

And I think this is the debate that's worth having.

So within the context of this debate,

I don't know.

I feel like it's a fair description of where we lie on the spectrum.

And I don't know if you agree, Daniel, but I think it's also been helpful between us to clarify where we stand on this technology.

And to just say that, you know, today's AI is normal technology, I think is like a really powerful statement.

And of course, this doesn't discount the importance of the technology.

It does not discount the importance of taking its societal impact seriously.

But it does sort of

put things into perspective compared to the view that Daniel perhaps has about the future of AI.

I mean, one thing that I don't know if you'll find surprising, but maybe many people here will find surprising is that Daniel and I share a lot of common ground when it comes to policy responses.

I think both of us value transparency immensely.