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Scarlet Fu

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289 total appearances

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Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

Everyone's a stakeholder, so it feels like everyone's kind of incentivized to make sure that whatever happens stays an idiosyncratic story and nothing more.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

Let's talk about something that may or may not be worrying to you, which is what's happening in big tech.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

They are investing tens of billions of dollars to build out data centers to boost their AI capabilities.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

They announced partnerships where they take equity sticks in each other and buy stuff from each other.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

Is this so-called circular funding a problem in and of itself?

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

Does it raise your antenna?

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

It's a red flag.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

I mean, is circular financing funding an unmistakable sign of market overexuberance?

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

So how do you hedge against this?

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

You've pointed out that the AI-driven capital spending boom we're seeing today is comparable to the internet build-out in the late 90s.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

So when companies start tapping the brakes a little bit, pulling back on their spending by just a bit, how quickly will that show up in earnings and margins given where we are in this bull market?

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

And it's not just things tied to AI.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

I look at the $55 billion takeout of Electronic Arts marking the biggest LBO ever.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

It's deal-making like it's 2007.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

Going beyond the order books of the big tech companies, as an inherent skeptic, what are you watching for to get a sense of how and when the music stops?

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

Okay.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

Well, eventually it will be.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

As of now, it hasn't gotten there yet.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

Jim, stay with us because we're going to discuss a lot more, including some of your trades.

Bloomberg Talks
Jim Chanos Talks Credit Markets, Bitcoin

This is Bloomberg.