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Scott Alexander (author/host)

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Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Your Review: Joan of Arc

The story tells that Joan approached the Dauphin in a room full of fine lords and noblemen where he was dressed plainly.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Your Review: Joan of Arc

that he denied his identity and she persisted that he and he alone was the true-born king of France and by this sign of her gifts convinced all that she was a saint chosen by God to bring him victory.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Your Review: Joan of Arc

Then Joan, who was come before the king, made the bows and reverences customary to make to the king, as if she had been nurtured at court, and this greeting done said, addressing her speech to the king, God give you life, gentle king, whereas she knew him not and had never seen him.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Your Review: Joan of Arc

And there were present several lords, dressed with pomp and richly, and more so than was the king.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Your Review: Joan of Arc

Wherefore he answered the said Joan, Not I am the king, Joan.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Your Review: Joan of Arc

And pointing to one of his lords, said, There is the king.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Your Review: Joan of Arc

To which she replied, By God, gentle prince, it is you and none other.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Your Review: Joan of Arc

Here's a painting of that, captioned, How can it be false if it is painted?

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Your Review: Joan of Arc

Yeah, that probably never happened.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Your Review: Joan of Arc

Sure, sure, it's source to a contemporary French historian, Jean Chartier, quoted above, who we know had met the Dauphin a decade or two after his coronation and could very easily have talked to eyewitnesses and gotten the story from them, and so it's on a much better foundation than 99% of what we believe about history.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Your Review: Joan of Arc

But we have eyewitnesses.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Your Review: Joan of Arc

Raoul de Gaucourt, Grand Master of the King's Household, 85 years of age or thereabouts, quote, I was present in the castle and town of Chinon when the maid arrived, and I saw her when she presented herself before the Royal Majesty, with much humility and great simplicity, the poor little shepherdess, and I heard the following words which she spoke to the King, Very noble Lord Dauphin, I am come and am sent by God to bring succour to you and your kingdom.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Your Review: Joan of Arc

No mention of the denial, no mention of the king's dress.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Your Review: Joan of Arc

Where did the story come from?

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Your Review: Joan of Arc

The probable explanation lies in Joan's own testimony during her first trial by the English.