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Scott Alexander

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Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

There are a bunch of ways in which we could be underestimating, and there are a bunch of ways in which we could be overestimating.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And we're going to hopefully continue to think more about this afterwards and continue to iteratively refine our models and come up with better guesses and so forth.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Great question.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

We still have to, like, stumble through all the discoveries that we've made since 2017.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

We still have to, like...

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

figure out that language models are a thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

We still have to figure out that you can fine-tune them with RL.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So all those things would still have to happen.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

How much faster would they happen?

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Maybe 5x faster because a lot of the small-scale experiments that these people do in order to test out ideas really quickly before they do the big training runs would happen much faster because they're just like liquidly being spit out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

I'm not very confident in that 5x number.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

It could be lower, it could be higher, but that was sort of like roughly what we were guessing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Our 5x, by the way, is for the algorithmic progress part, not for the overall thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So in this hypothetical, according to me, basically things would be going like 2.5x faster, where the algorithms would be advancing at 5x speed, but the compute is still stuck at the usual speed.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

The way that we did our takeoff forecast was basically by breaking down how we think the intelligence explosion would go into a series of milestones.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

First, you automate the coding.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Then you automate the whole research process, but in a very similar way to how humans do it with, like,

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

you know, teams of agents that are about human level, then you get to superhuman level and so forth.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And so we broke it down as these milestones, you know, the superhuman coder, superhuman AI researcher, and then super intelligent AI researcher.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And the way we did our forecast was we basically, well, for each of these milestones, we were like, what is it going to take to make an AI that has, that achieves that milestone?