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Scott Alexander

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Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Otherwise you end up with like this horrifying dictatorship or oligarchy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And like, so it feels like all that stuff has to go, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And we depict it all going mostly right in one ending of our story.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

But, yeah, it's kind of rough.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

If I may add to that, so one thing by the government, I think what Scott meant is the executive branch, especially the White House.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So we are depicting a sort of information asymmetry where like the judiciary is kind of out of the loop and the Congress is out of the loop and it's like mostly the executive branch that's involved.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Two, we're not depicting governments, like, ultimately ending up in total control at the ends.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

We're thinking that, like, there's an information asymmetry between the CEOs of these companies and the presidents, and they... It's alignment problems all the way down.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Yeah, and so, for example, like...

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

I'm not a lawyer.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

I don't know the details about how this would work out, but I have a sort of high-level strategic picture of the fight between the White House and the CEO.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And the strategic picture is basically the White House can sort of threaten, here's all these orders I could make, Defense Production Act, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

I could do all this terrible stuff to you and basically disempower you and take control.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And then the CEO can be like threatened back and be like, here's how we would fight it in the courts.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Here's how we would fight it in the public.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Here's all this stuff we would do.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And after then they both do their posturing with all their threats.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Then they're like, okay, how about we have a contract that like, you know, instead of executing on all of our threats and having all these crazy fights in public, we'll just like come to a deal and then have a military contract that like sets out like who gets to call what shots in the company.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And so that's what we depict happening is that sort of like

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

They don't blow up into this huge power struggle publicly.