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Scott Alexander

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Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

say that actually everything's fine and that everyone should listen to your orders.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

That was CortΓ©s' strategy and it actually worked.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And then Pizarro did the same thing and it worked with the Inca.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

But also with Pizarro, his group ended up getting into a civil war in the middle of this whole thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And one of the most important battles of this whole campaign was between two Spanish forces fighting it out in front of the capital city of the Incas.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

More generally, the history of European colonialism is like this, where the Europeans were like fighting each other intensely the entire time, both on the small scale within individual groups and then also at the large scale between countries.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And yet nevertheless, they were able to carve up the world and take over.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And so I do think this is not what we explore in the scenario, but I think it's entirely plausible that even if the AIs within an individual company are like in different factions, they might nevertheless overall end up quite poorly for humans.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Like by no doom, you mean no like misaligned AI doom?

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

That's right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Even if you think the misalignment stuff is like not an issue, which many people think, there's still the constitution of power stuff.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And so I would strongly recommend that people get more engaged, think about what's coming, and try to steer things politically so that our ordinary liberal democracy continues to function and we still have like...

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

checks and balances and balances of power and stuff rather than this insane concentration in a single CEO or in maybe like two or three CEOs or in like the president, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Ideally, we want to have it so that like the legislature has a substantial amount of power over the spec, for example.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

I love speculating, actually.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

I'm happy to keep going.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

But this is moving beyond the speculation we have done so far.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Our scenario ends with this stuff, but we haven't actually thought that much beyond.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Well, some of the concentration of power stuff I think might also help with this.