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Scott Alexander

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Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

I know for a fact a bunch of friends I have who also left the company just signed the paperwork on the last day without actually reading all of it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And so I think some people just didn't even know.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

It said something at the top about if you don't sign this, you lose your equity.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

But then on a couple pages later, it was like, and you have to agree not to criticize the company.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So I think some people just signed it and moved on.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And then of the people who knew about it,

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

well, I can't speak for anyone else, but like, A, it's like, I don't know the law.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Is this actually not standard practice?

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Maybe it is standard practice, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Like, from what I've heard now,

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

there are non-disparagement agreements in various tech industry, like, companies and stuff.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Like, it's not crazy to have a non-disparagement agreement upon leaving.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

It's more normal to tie that agreement to some sort of, like, positive compensation.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Where, like, you get some bonus if you agree.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

But, whereas what OpenID did was unusual because it was, like, yanking your equity if you don't.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

But, like, non-disparagement agreements are actually somewhat common.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And, like, so, basically, in my position of ignorance, I wasn't, like, confident that I was on this, like,

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Like, I didn't actually expect that, like, all the journalists would take my side and all the employees.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Like, I think what I expected was that, like, there'd be, like, a little news story at some point and, like, a bunch of AI safety people would be like, ah, you know, open AI is evil.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model β€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And, like, good for you, Daniel, for standing up to them.