Scott Alldridge

Those are really popular ones.

The other thing point I would make about that is back to kind of the zero trust, the big, you know, assume breach.

The way you defend against and put yourself in the best position as a business is you actually don't just have backups.

But if you're assuming breach, you have immutable backups, which an air gap, which means that they are completely separate from your network.

So if the threat actors are very patient, they'll get on there.

They'll sit for a while, watch for a month, two, three months.

Sometimes they'll see where you're streaming.

We're streaming our backups to another location.

We're streaming to the cloud.

We got backups.

We're good.

They'll actually watch where you're putting them.

Then they'll go encrypt where your backups are if they're not encrypted.

And so that's a really scary thing.

So a lot of people don't understand that.

And a lot of organizations and companies, the level that you need to have in your backup strategy, it sounds like, oh, we've got it covered.

I'm sure everybody's saying they've got good backups.

But can you restore?

And are they mutable?

Really important.