Scott Alldridge

So you can kind of understand the insurance side of the world too, but.

that's a real problem out there that's a we run into that a lot where people like well we want to do a little bit of a cyber we don't want to do much because we got insurance so we're good it's like well maybe you aren't so we actually do an assessment yeah around their cyber insurance for them and it's eye-opening what you what you find that the fine print what they have to have in place that they don't typically i might have to have you look at mine because i think i have like a 10 million dollar policy but it might not be enough uh-huh you know

There is.

They've learned to kind of play the fine print on you big time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And with big companies, you can imagine they're paying millions of dollars in cyber insurance.

So there's a lot that goes on there.

It is.

Yeah.

And unfortunately, I mean, you'd have to say pretty honestly, they're winning.

Right.

Based off stats.

Yeah.

It sounds like they're winning by a lot right now.

Yeah, I think I'd write another stat again that I think it was 28% of small to medium businesses actually fill in a survey.

And it was like 2,000, 2,500 companies actually feel like they're doing a good job of cybersecurity.

So they kind of know it's kind of learning that I don't think we're as prepared as we think we are.

And a lot of your IT people, I mean, they're overworked or they're not properly budgeted or funded in some cases.

In other cases, there can be kind of arrogant.