Scott Barry Kaufman

This is deep implications.

I mean, so you talk about the theme of your show right here.

We're getting to this is very, very congruent.

I mean, think about what is required to develop social intelligence.

Sometimes when people smile, they mean this.

Sometimes they don't.

Sometimes when people's eyes are like this, sometimes they don't.

You know, the world is messy.

And I, from a cognitive scientist lens, I develop tasks to measure people, differences in people's ability to learn about the probabilistic structure of something.

And we have found that's virtually uncorrelated, wholly uncorrelated with IQ.

The people that can go into an IQ testing, one of our sessions, be like A, C, B, D, and get like a strongly off the charts IQ.

Oftentimes the ones that are not learning implicitly.

It's like a seesaw.

Sometimes the thing on one side causing you challenges brings you up in another way.

He sees this especially amongst so-called 2E kids.

2E stands for twice exceptional, where you have a profound, extraordinary difficulty or challenge in your life, and you also have a profound...

gift or talent or ability.

But there are people that really do have profound difficulties and profound gifts and talents in one body.

Absolutely.

I saw that just going all the way back to the sixth grade, Scott, who heard the announcement on the speaker, gifted kids go to their room.