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Scott Bessent

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

So back to Jason's question on BLS, how robust are the numbers?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

I think there are a lot of changes that could be adjusted to give us a better picture.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

Sure.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

So Fed was created in 1913 as a response to the panic of 1907, which most people don't know about.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

It made the crash of 29 look like a day at the beach.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

Nickerbocker crisis, yeah.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

The Nickerbocker crisis and just a domino effect within the financial system.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

There was no central bank.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

Bank of England is a very old central bank and had been functioning well.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

JP Morgan actually had to personally step in.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

in the crisis.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

And it was deemed that there should be a mechanism for the government to be able to either wind down, provide liquidity, and have a greater control on the economy rather than private operators.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

For much of its history, Treasury had a seat at the table on the Federal Reserve.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

Post-World War II, that stopped.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

And then

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

If we look at more recent history, what happened after the great financial crisis, we saw this paralysis in the economy.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

I think a huge part of it, which has been part of my regulatory agenda here at Treasury this year through the Financial Stability Oversight Council is undoing the poorly thought out crisis legislation

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

But what the crisis legislation did, and look, after financial, I studied and taught at Yale the history of financial crises, there's always retribution.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

And you go from a lax regulatory regime to an over-constricted regulatory regime.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

So coming out of the dramatic GFC for 10 years, we had this over-