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Scott Bessent

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

this massive debt increase, seven trillion that we saw during that period.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

So it's a long way of saying the central bank has become much more involved in the economy.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

I think a lot of people don't understand we've gone from what used to be fairly straightforward rate setting mechanism to

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

Now we have kind of this three-headed beast at the Fed or this very complex calculus that I don't think anyone really understands, myself included.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

You have rate-setting policy.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

You have balance sheet policy.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

So the Fed has a very big balance sheet now.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

And then you have regulatory policy.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

Yeah, well, again, the Fed should make money.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

Fed typically used to make money and would remit money back to the treasury.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

And back to David's question on the budget deficit, the Fed was sending back about 0.3% of GDP through, we have seniorage, which is the float on the currency.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

There are other operations, but then they started QE and no one told the Fed that you're not supposed to buy high.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

So-

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

They paid a high price for bonds, low interest rates, and they're arbitrage.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

The Fed's losing about $100 billion a year now.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

Well, I think what the Fed did, unfortunately, they took modern monetary theory from... I say they went from MMT, modern monetary theory, to MMP, modern monetary practice.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

So the Biden administration issued all this debt and the Fed bought it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

And there's a very good study from MIT that's come out that shows in a way that only...

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

PhDs at MIT can be very precise.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Scott Bessent: Fixing the Fed, Tariffs for National Security, Solving Affordability in 2026

42% of the great inflation was caused by the budget deficit.