Scott Carney

A beautiful thing.

It's called The Red Market on the Trail of the World's Organ Brokers, Bone Thieves, Blood Farmers, Child Traffickers, where I basically looked at the real world of people buying and selling human body parts.

And it's a thing that actually happens.

You can buy and sell human kidneys.

They can buy skin and blood and

uh, corneas, hair, surrogate, wombs, eggs, that sort of stuff.

And I spent a chapter on each sort of Oregon market.

Um, it's about 10 years old now, or maybe even older, maybe it's 13 years old now.

So it's a little bit out of date, but I can only say that the market has gotten way worse than it ever was back then.

so um traditionally so yeah i mean so the thing that was happening in china at the time i was writing so we have this these dissident movements inside china the falun gong or falun dafa however you want to talk about if you've seen the shen yun posters all around america of like chinese people waving scarves you've maybe seen these billboards outside of like every major city uh that group is connected to this political dissident group

in China and they were being put in political prisons, like essentially Chinese gulags.

At the same time, the Chinese government really didn't like these people because they had so many members, they were actually larger than the Chinese Communist Party.

And they would round them up

Put them into these gulags and then tissue type them.

This is this is not crazy.

They would actually do like blood tests on them, take out their genetic markers.

And there were there was a program to do executions on demand for organ procurement.

And that was a program that at least was running between about 2005 and 2011, my book.

China now says that they don't do it anymore, and I really hope that is true.

But I certainly talked to prisoners, former prisoners, who had been tissue-typed, who were part of this sort of Falun Dafa organization, who said that they were tissue-typed, and the other people in the prisons were not.