Scott Carney

And there's a lot of programs affiliated with mainstream hospitals in countries like India and Pakistan, Brazil, Egypt, South Africa, the Philippines, Indonesia, China, obviously.

Those are sort of the big hitters of this trade.

Who will have ways of getting your kidneys?

And it happens in a variety of ways.

It's not usually so easy as just calling them up, but sometimes it is.

The market's always changing.

For instance, at the time I was writing the book, there was this place called Adil Hospital in Islamabad, I believe.

It could have been Karachi, where you would

They had something called an ethical organ harvesting network where I don't know what that is, but they said we had certified ethical organs and that we'll get you and it costs about $14,000.

And you could just actually, in that case, you could have called up a Dill Hospital, written them a check.

And they would have given you, they would have installed a kidney in you and you shouldn't ask any questions about it.

I was based in India where the situation was a little bit different.

So I was on the southern coast of India.

Chennai is a city used to be called Madras.

I lived there for three years.

And, you know, there was this tsunami that hit that area in 2000.

And I want to say six.

Might have been earlier than that.

Maybe 2005.

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