Scott Detrow

I want to end this conversation the way you ended this story, because the fact is, for a lot of these people, maybe even a majority of these people, all of this long, long journey, which, like you said, the very end of is is riding across the desert, freezing cold on the top of a train. It's all for naught because you end the story by talking about a family who they make it across the border.

I want to end this conversation the way you ended this story, because the fact is, for a lot of these people, maybe even a majority of these people, all of this long, long journey, which, like you said, the very end of is is riding across the desert, freezing cold on the top of a train. It's all for naught because you end the story by talking about a family who they make it across the border.

They turn themselves in and seek for asylum. And they're immediately kicked out of the United States. And yet, as you write in the story, they, the next day, start heading north again.

They turn themselves in and seek for asylum. And they're immediately kicked out of the United States. And yet, as you write in the story, they, the next day, start heading north again.

They turn themselves in and seek for asylum. And they're immediately kicked out of the United States. And yet, as you write in the story, they, the next day, start heading north again.

That's Eder Peralta, Mexico City correspondent for NPR. Eder, thanks for walking us through one of your stories and helping us understand how you think about all of this.

That's Eder Peralta, Mexico City correspondent for NPR. Eder, thanks for walking us through one of your stories and helping us understand how you think about all of this.

That's Eder Peralta, Mexico City correspondent for NPR. Eder, thanks for walking us through one of your stories and helping us understand how you think about all of this.

This episode was produced by Noah Caldwell and edited by Adam Rainey and Courtney Dorning. Our executive producer is Sammy Yannigan. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Scott Detrow.

This episode was produced by Noah Caldwell and edited by Adam Rainey and Courtney Dorning. Our executive producer is Sammy Yannigan. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Scott Detrow.

This episode was produced by Noah Caldwell and edited by Adam Rainey and Courtney Dorning. Our executive producer is Sammy Yannigan. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Scott Detrow.

It's no secret that much, if not most, of the Republican Party is in lockstep with President Trump.

It's no secret that much, if not most, of the Republican Party is in lockstep with President Trump.

It's no secret that much, if not most, of the Republican Party is in lockstep with President Trump.

We have seen members of the president's party fall in line over and over on a wide range of issues since Trump returned to office some six weeks ago. Sometimes that has meant compromising on issues and beliefs that had defined them for years.

We have seen members of the president's party fall in line over and over on a wide range of issues since Trump returned to office some six weeks ago. Sometimes that has meant compromising on issues and beliefs that had defined them for years.

We have seen members of the president's party fall in line over and over on a wide range of issues since Trump returned to office some six weeks ago. Sometimes that has meant compromising on issues and beliefs that had defined them for years.

That was Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy, a doctor who had expressed concerns about vaccine resistance, voting for Trump's pick to head the Department of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Kennedy has a long history of opposition to vaccines and chaired an anti-vaccine nonprofit called Children's Health Defense.

That was Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy, a doctor who had expressed concerns about vaccine resistance, voting for Trump's pick to head the Department of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Kennedy has a long history of opposition to vaccines and chaired an anti-vaccine nonprofit called Children's Health Defense.

That was Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy, a doctor who had expressed concerns about vaccine resistance, voting for Trump's pick to head the Department of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Kennedy has a long history of opposition to vaccines and chaired an anti-vaccine nonprofit called Children's Health Defense.