Scott Diamond

And when did we get paid?

Well, if you could answer that second question, I'd appreciate it.

I can tell you, the case was basically a contract dispute, right?

Mr. Menendez was approached by John Ruiz to sell his technology, including the name LifeWallet you were just referencing, in addition to some other information and other technology and software platforms.

And so basically, Ruiz bought the stuff and never paid for it.

And we ended up suing for essentially that breach of contract, and the jury agreed that that was the deal, and that they never paid us what they owed us, and they gave us every penny we asked for.

It's a shitty deal you made there, Norby.

Well, that's a problem and a difficulty with an oral contract.

But at the end of the day, the jury listened to both guys testify and we explained what we said the deal was and they agreed.

And so the outcome was that he was supposed to pay us what he promised to pay us back in 2021.

Correct.

But he's talking about the meeting.

It's unusual for, as a lawyer, to be able to use the word in a pleading that you file.

And it's even more unusual to be able to say it during your jury argument.

But basically that was the quote from John Ruiz.

That's what everyone admitted that he said to Norb and sort of got in his face in a meeting.

And that's why Norb eventually left the company.

What did he say?

What did John Ruiz say to Norb?

So right in Norb's face.