Scott Horton

Just like saying that I said I trust Hezbollah when anyone can rewind that and break their finger trying to find the part where I said that because I never did.

And now you brought up the DPRK.

Well...

In 2002, when George W. Bush said that they were part of the axis of evil, they were part of the NPT and they had a safeguards agreement with the IAEA.

And yes, they had bought centrifuge equipment from AQ Khan, but they had not used it.

It was John Bolton's lie that they were enriching uranium to weapons grade and violating the agreed framework.

John Bolton and George W. Bush in the fall of 02 then canceled the agreed framework deal that Bill Clinton had struck based on this misinformation.

They added new sanctions and they launched what was called the Proliferation Security Initiative, which was an illegal and unilateral claim of the authority to seize any North Korean ship on the high seas if they suspected it of proliferation.

And then they added them to the Nuclear Posture Review, putting them on the short list for a potential first strike.

And it was only then

In the end of 2002, after these, what, four or five major things that the Bush government did to antagonize them, that North Korea then announced that they were going to withdraw from the treaty and begin making nuclear weapons, which is what they did.

And then, as we know from all the scientists say, every time that they've tested a nuclear bomb, it's been a plutonium bomb.

They never tested, never once used a uranium bomb.

There's no evidence that John Bolton's claims there that they were enriching uranium were ever true.

And they had, you know, Sig Hecker, who's this important American nuclear expert, went and toured their facilities and all of these things.

And so we know quite a bit about what they have.

And it was...

Simply, Bush pushed North Korea to nukes, as Gordon Prather wrote in his last great article for us at Antiwar.com.

It's not right that I'm saying everything anyone does.

You're saying that everything I say is that everyone, anyone else does is a reaction.