Scott Horton

But then the idea, the easiest explanation is that it was a sting that went wrong, that the FBI was supposed to swoop in and be heroes, but they just got outsmarted.

And I think it's a proven fact.

We know that there were two Ryder trucks and essentially the FBI was following one truck and they knew it, so they just brought in another truck.

and did the bombing with that one and outsmarted the feds and killed all the people.

And then they covered it up.

And they admitted, I mean, the US attorney who prosecuted the case admitted in an interview that he and all of his attorneys all agreed that they were letting guilty people go free.

Their excuse was they didn't want to jeopardize the death penalty case against McVeigh.

Because if they had to admit that all these other neo-Nazi friends of his helped him do it, then that raises the question whether he was just the idiot driving the truck and they were the ones who really did it.

And they didn't want to cast reasonable doubt on his guilt.

They had to get his scalp.

And so we can either give everybody life or we can give one guy death.

So we're going to do that.

And that's their excuse.

That's their official excuse for letting the guilty go free.

It's in the book, Oklahoma City by Gumbel and Charles.

Larry Mackey is the name of the federal prosecutor who admitted that to them.

And Secret Service and Agriculture Department and all different government agencies in there.

And there was a daycare center, so 20 children were killed in the thing.

It was an absolute catastrophe.

Maybe we'll have a callback to Oklahoma later in the show when we talk about Iran.