Scott Horton

the the alliance by moving right in there as putin said back in 2014 although you know a little bit optimistic he said i could be in kiev in two weeks which in fact he did his guys did get almost to kiev before what they stopped because they were in the middle of negotiating a peace deal one that america and britain ruined this is after the war had already begun

the the alliance by moving right in there as putin said back in 2014 although you know a little bit optimistic he said i could be in kiev in two weeks which in fact he did his guys did get almost to kiev before what they stopped because they were in the middle of negotiating a peace deal one that america and britain ruined this is after the war had already begun

um the uh istanbul deal which would be the basis of the deal that they're trying to get right now and at the time of course the two major issues was nato expansion and the ongoing civil war and they were willing to accept

um the uh istanbul deal which would be the basis of the deal that they're trying to get right now and at the time of course the two major issues was nato expansion and the ongoing civil war and they were willing to accept

Donbas, Luhansk and Donetsk both staying in Ukraine under a strong federalism type situation, but still as part of Ukraine, not completely independent and not part of the Russian Federation, if they could have got the deal. And, you know, you quoted Jens Stoltenberg earlier. You almost had it right. You just added an R, but... But Stoltenberg, you're right.

Donbas, Luhansk and Donetsk both staying in Ukraine under a strong federalism type situation, but still as part of Ukraine, not completely independent and not part of the Russian Federation, if they could have got the deal. And, you know, you quoted Jens Stoltenberg earlier. You almost had it right. You just added an R, but... But Stoltenberg, you're right.

He had cited that treaty that Russia proposed a treaty to NATO and the United States just signed this very simple deal and this won't happen. And they basically just ignored that. And- And I'm sorry, I was going to make one more point there.

He had cited that treaty that Russia proposed a treaty to NATO and the United States just signed this very simple deal and this won't happen. And they basically just ignored that. And- And I'm sorry, I was going to make one more point there.

On top of him was was Zelensky himself gave that statement to CNN where he said, they told me behind the scenes, look, we're not going to bring you into NATO. But in public, we're going to pretend like we're going to someday. And we want you to continue to act like that's going to happen and all this.

On top of him was was Zelensky himself gave that statement to CNN where he said, they told me behind the scenes, look, we're not going to bring you into NATO. But in public, we're going to pretend like we're going to someday. And we want you to continue to act like that's going to happen and all this.

And he explained all this in frustration on CNN that they had him in this weird bind where they were promising that. you know someday will protect you but not now even though we know promising to someday protect you now is going to get you into a war now and he's saying what the hell kind of a situation is this for you to put me in and then but he continued to go along yeah you know it it is um

And he explained all this in frustration on CNN that they had him in this weird bind where they were promising that. you know someday will protect you but not now even though we know promising to someday protect you now is going to get you into a war now and he's saying what the hell kind of a situation is this for you to put me in and then but he continued to go along yeah you know it it is um

especially when we're the ones doing it i mean this is the whole thing you know the famous henry kissinger quote where he says to be america to be america's enemy is dangerous to be america's friend is fatal what he was talking about was building up groups and then stabbing them in the back leaving them high and dry and i forget exactly i think he's talking about the kurds then which he betrayed the kurds at least twice himself i think um

especially when we're the ones doing it i mean this is the whole thing you know the famous henry kissinger quote where he says to be america to be america's enemy is dangerous to be america's friend is fatal what he was talking about was building up groups and then stabbing them in the back leaving them high and dry and i forget exactly i think he's talking about the kurds then which he betrayed the kurds at least twice himself i think um

it may have been a reference to the Hmong tribesmen of Laos and, and kind of North, I think Northwestern Vietnam that the CIA backed them to take on the North Vietnamese. And then it was like, okay, well we're leaving. Good luck to you guys after we just, you know, encourage you to turn yourselves into the avowed deadly enemies of these people who have so much more power than you do. So bye.

it may have been a reference to the Hmong tribesmen of Laos and, and kind of North, I think Northwestern Vietnam that the CIA backed them to take on the North Vietnamese. And then it was like, okay, well we're leaving. Good luck to you guys after we just, you know, encourage you to turn yourselves into the avowed deadly enemies of these people who have so much more power than you do. So bye.

And didn't even help them get out of there, you know? They do the same thing to the Kurds over and over again. I don't know. The Iraqi Kurds are in a pretty good spot with America now, but they've been stabbed in the back by America at least twice in the 1980s. And then again, after the end of the first Iraq war and then the the Syrian Kurds in in Turkey and pardon me, in northeastern Syria.

And didn't even help them get out of there, you know? They do the same thing to the Kurds over and over again. I don't know. The Iraqi Kurds are in a pretty good spot with America now, but they've been stabbed in the back by America at least twice in the 1980s. And then again, after the end of the first Iraq war and then the the Syrian Kurds in in Turkey and pardon me, in northeastern Syria.

Claim we love them and then built up the Islamist caliphate that became their absolute deadly enemy when it conquered all of that land in eastern Syria and western Iraq. We had to go in there and fight another war for them. And we're still there protecting them now. Otherwise, what? They'll be overrun by our other allies, the Turks.

Claim we love them and then built up the Islamist caliphate that became their absolute deadly enemy when it conquered all of that land in eastern Syria and western Iraq. We had to go in there and fight another war for them. And we're still there protecting them now. Otherwise, what? They'll be overrun by our other allies, the Turks.