Scott Johnson

It was just kind of a crazy time, as you remember.

And so I was working on the book.

And then Chris Smith, the documentary filmmaker, got in touch.

And he'd heard about the story and he'd heard about that I was writing a book.

And he said, maybe, you know, we should work on something together.

And so he and I kind of paired up.

And that was in the summer of 2020 and very shortly after he and I paired up, I made the decision that I was going to go, I was going to go looking for this person, this scammer.

And that was a kind of a pivotal moment.

It changed everything because.

It meant I had to kind of venture out into the world in COVID.

I got on a plane and I flew to England, which is where I believed he was.

But I didn't know where exactly.

I knew I had a pretty good idea that he was in the city of Manchester, but I didn't know really...

I mean, I had an idea of where he might be, like what building he might be in, but I didn't know for sure.

I'd never spoken to him.

I'd reached out many, many times to talk to him.

He'd never responded.

So I just was taking a gamble.

And I thought, I'm just going to go try to find this guy and get him to talk to me.

So I flew to Manchester.