Scott Johnson

things he'd done, behaviors, many of which were just deeply manipulative and criminal.

But there were some stories I heard in which he acted violently.

That was troubling for me.

As somebody who was going in search of him, I obviously didn't want to get into any kind of situation where

I would be in danger or where anybody else around me, even people in the street potentially would be in danger.

So that was a concern.

So there were a lot of factors that went into, or that I had to think about when contemplating this.

I didn't wanna

And I didn't want him to hurt himself either.

He was the subject of an investigation.

There were serious people in the FBI and in the United States Department of Justice that wanted to hold him to account.

I didn't want to stand in their way.

So there was a lot to consider.

And ultimately, I settled on the idea that I would approach him in a public place.

you know, for maximum safety and also to give everybody involved a chance to extricate themselves with the least possible, you know, repercussions and damage and so forth.

So there were a number of reasons for that.

And yeah, so then I

I ultimately approached him and he chatted with me for quite a while there in the street.

At first he was pretty freaked out.

He said he didn't want to talk to me and he started lying about all kinds of stuff right away.