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Scott Johnson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2025 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

Even if you had really hard evidence of a very specific event and you told those right down to the T, there's always going to be somebody with an interpretation of something else, right? They're going to Sure. Yeah. Came in late or they saw it different or they were close friends with that guy or they didn't they didn't know about this deadline or whatever. And it changes the truth for them.

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

So I must be kind of hard to navigate sometimes.

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

So I must be kind of hard to navigate sometimes.

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

Yeah, I feel this way about documentaries. I hate when they do reenactments. They're the worst. I know they're trying to capture something that just to me just says, those aren't the real people. These aren't the real things. That may not have been the right tone. It drives me crazy. So actually, I guess I'm glad to hear that. It's interesting, though. Blizzard is a subject, though.

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

Yeah, I feel this way about documentaries. I hate when they do reenactments. They're the worst. I know they're trying to capture something that just to me just says, those aren't the real people. These aren't the real things. That may not have been the right tone. It drives me crazy. So actually, I guess I'm glad to hear that. It's interesting, though. Blizzard is a subject, though.

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

To me, they are an obvious target for saying, hey, I bet there's a book in the Blizzard story. But I don't want to assume that from your perspective. And also, I think a lot of people thought that, well, this would be kind of...

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

To me, they are an obvious target for saying, hey, I bet there's a book in the Blizzard story. But I don't want to assume that from your perspective. And also, I think a lot of people thought that, well, this would be kind of...

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

All the stuff from around the pandemic through the sexual harassment scandal, through the messy layoffs, through the Microsoft stuff, the Bobby Kotick stuff, all these things, that's going to be Schreier's book. He's going to just really focus in on the tell-all dirt around this messy part of Blizzard where they went from this thing we held so high, this weird standard in the industry, to

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

All the stuff from around the pandemic through the sexual harassment scandal, through the messy layoffs, through the Microsoft stuff, the Bobby Kotick stuff, all these things, that's going to be Schreier's book. He's going to just really focus in on the tell-all dirt around this messy part of Blizzard where they went from this thing we held so high, this weird standard in the industry, to

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

Of excellence and at every turn and ready when it's ready and all these polished things, the things we always held them in such high regard, myself included. They had fallen kind of pretty far from the branch right around that era. And so I think a lot of people thought, well, that's what this book's about. Um, I was delighted that it was not just that.

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

Of excellence and at every turn and ready when it's ready and all these polished things, the things we always held them in such high regard, myself included. They had fallen kind of pretty far from the branch right around that era. And so I think a lot of people thought, well, that's what this book's about. Um, I was delighted that it was not just that.

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

I mean, obviously those, some of those things are talked about the Microsoft thing wasn't even done by the time I think you had submitted final draft. Um, or at least it wasn't, it had just finished closing or something. And so, uh,

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

I mean, obviously those, some of those things are talked about the Microsoft thing wasn't even done by the time I think you had submitted final draft. Um, or at least it wasn't, it had just finished closing or something. And so, uh,

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

The fact that the book was more about, no, here it is from birth to now and everything in between and what it meant to crunch at Blizzard versus other places or what is it that made them seem cooler, bigger, and better?

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

The fact that the book was more about, no, here it is from birth to now and everything in between and what it meant to crunch at Blizzard versus other places or what is it that made them seem cooler, bigger, and better?

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

And why is it that even when we had amazing sales and held them so high, they were still struggling to make payroll and they couldn't keep up with their own scale and this sort of thing? I guess I would ask you, when you went into this to cover this, how much of a surprise was it to you that it would be the broader picture and less about the nitty and the gritty of the last five, six years?

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

And why is it that even when we had amazing sales and held them so high, they were still struggling to make payroll and they couldn't keep up with their own scale and this sort of thing? I guess I would ask you, when you went into this to cover this, how much of a surprise was it to you that it would be the broader picture and less about the nitty and the gritty of the last five, six years?

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

That's great insight because I had the feeling when I got done with it that it's an empty shell of a story to tell all the messy stuff toward the end without all that precursor. It's not that it absolves Blizzard of anything, but it gives a full account of the life. It's a lot like a life of a person. It's complicated. And it has turns and twists. Yeah.

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

That's great insight because I had the feeling when I got done with it that it's an empty shell of a story to tell all the messy stuff toward the end without all that precursor. It's not that it absolves Blizzard of anything, but it gives a full account of the life. It's a lot like a life of a person. It's complicated. And it has turns and twists. Yeah.

The Instance: World of Warcraft Podcast
The Jason Schreier Interview: Games, Blizzard, and The Industry

Yeah, it's a great study in what the cost of that level of creativity and productivity actually is. And then maybe, I don't know, some can learn from it and apply different principles to the starting of their big startups and not become one of these stories and just stay the beloved company who's also got great policies and good internals and all that stuff.