Scott Mann

I mean, there's things that continue to come out of that interview, and frankly, that we didn't know when we went into it.

that have to do with other resistance organizations, levels of competency inside each of these resistance organizations.

You don't have the opportunity to evaluate any of that information because the news doesn't even cover it.

They don't even talk about it.

No one's interviewed Massoud like you did and went to him and laid that out.

And a lot of the things that are falling out of that interview

some good, some bad, like, that's necessary, I think, for, you know, who was it that was telling me the other day who said that, you know, pretty soon, the highest commodity in the country is gonna be truth.

because you just don't know what's true anymore.

There's no way to know what's true.

And what you said that NBC did with that interview, like they didn't even cite it or source it.

So how do you know what's true?

Unless you do these long form conversations

where there's plenty of opportunities for you and me to screw up, plenty of opportunities to say things wrong, but also plenty of opportunities for people to get a sense of you, a sense of me, and start to get a sense of themselves.

And we just don't do that anymore.

And when you're dealing with these kinds of topics, honestly, what people have told me about Pineapple Express in the book is I had no idea.

that our Afghan commandos went through that.

I had no idea that the Minister of Women's Affairs, the most wanted woman in Afghanistan, was not even picked up by the State Department, but rather had to jump in a ship canal and get guided by veterans and the 82nd Airborne to even escape.

One of four female ministers in the whole country.

So I think, I see your point.

The whole thing is kind of being upended.