Scott Mann

And as an actor, you have to take the armor off and you have to have all those moments with the audience.

You have to be completely exposed.

So unless you're willing to do that, it's not possible.

Give it to an actor that can do it.

And I was like, well, what does it take to do that?

And they said, well,

about a year.

And so I started training in diaphragmatic breath work.

And what I learned though, Sean, what was astounding to me was that the theater community is really good at getting in front of a group of people they don't know and being super present and available on things that are very emotional and feeling it with the audience.

So if you think about that,

If you go into a negotiation where you have to get in front of your teenager that's been bullied, whatever, you've got to be there.

You've got to be present.

You've got to be available.

You've got to be intentional.

That's the leaders we're missing right now.

We're missing those leaders that have been scuffed up and that are just real.

And there's no armor.

They're just here.

I think that's why people are so drawn to the interviews that you've done and stuff.

It's because it's completely vulnerable.