Scott Mann

Metaphorically, I think it's exactly what's happening.

And I travel all over the country and I teach this in every industry imaginable, nonprofits, I speak on it.

With the play, we do talk backs after every play.

So I spend a lot of time listening and watching what's happening in the human terrain.

And I'm absolutely convinced that's what's happening.

And the big reason is a lot of our leaders are what I call divisionists.

To have a civil society like America that is

is based on bridging across in-groups and out-groups, right?

Out of many come one.

That kind of trust is not a normal trust in the mammal community, right?

Mammals, when we, no matter, we group and we trust only the people in our group or our den or our pack or our clan or our tribe, that's who we trust.

But we've built a society that we actually trust beyond race and religion and politics.

And it's pretty astounding, honestly, but it's not a natural thing.

And it requires a level of leadership that is bridging in nature.

You have to be stewards of that.

You have to model that in what you do.

And to me, over the last several decades, what you've seen are leaders who actually are supposed to do that, but they've actually become like these divisionist leaders who foment division and basically foment the reemergence of these in-groups and out-groups, these tribal groups, to advance a narrow agenda.

And if you look around, you see it everywhere.

You see it on both sides of the aisle.

You see it in social media.