Scott Miller

Right.

How do you think that's going to be for him to see this?

Does he have any idea what he'd be sitting down to watch or not?

I think he's got some sort of an idea, but I hope it gives him another perspective of the narrative his head's in, his space is in at the moment because –

It's a difficult one, if I can explain it that way.

I don't see him often, and it's hard to spend time with him.

Because of all the stuff that I've done, I understand that.

But I'm just trying to make amends.

Mate, there'll be some difficult things to talk about here, but there's some bloody positives as well.

And I've got to say, and we'll get to the fact, you're back in the pool.

The first thing I thought, mate, is you're in good shape.

You're sitting there in the interview and you've got pipes, you've got veins down your pipes.

Mate, you look unbelievable.

Well done for getting into this shape.

I did have four years of controlled environment where I was able to eat and train and get in a routine.

And that's... You know, when I look back and I think, Jesus, I was programmed from a young age for routine and structure.

And as soon as my swimming career finished, that went out the window and my life just went into disarray.

And it wasn't until I went back to prison that I realised that this lifestyle is...

what I need to be my best.

And I just used it.