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Scott Weinberger

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3382 total appearances

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Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

Well, this would definitely be a working theory to begin with. It also adds a real evidentiary aspect to it. Since the car is parked away from the scene of the murder, maybe they didn't think surveillance cameras would capture the car and hopefully capture digital evidence, like a bombshell, ID the car, perhaps ID the killer as well.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

Well, this would definitely be a working theory to begin with. It also adds a real evidentiary aspect to it. Since the car is parked away from the scene of the murder, maybe they didn't think surveillance cameras would capture the car and hopefully capture digital evidence, like a bombshell, ID the car, perhaps ID the killer as well.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

So if there is a lying in wait vehicle and your suspect got out of the car and potentially is going to go back to the car, that is a real connection. To this brutal murder.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

So if there is a lying in wait vehicle and your suspect got out of the car and potentially is going to go back to the car, that is a real connection. To this brutal murder.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

Now, as it turned out, cameras positioned around the gas station managed to capture a portion of the car's license plate before it pulled away. But investigators were only able to make out one digit, the letter E, not enough to make an idea on the owner. So Paul and his team turned to a relatively new resource in their toolbox. It's called geofencing.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

Now, as it turned out, cameras positioned around the gas station managed to capture a portion of the car's license plate before it pulled away. But investigators were only able to make out one digit, the letter E, not enough to make an idea on the owner. So Paul and his team turned to a relatively new resource in their toolbox. It's called geofencing.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

And there's a real reason why Paul would have to get a warrant to do this, because obviously, privacy issues would come up. If you're dropping this imaginary geofence on a location, you're pulling up any data that it registers within that fence area. So I could imagine that people would say, well, what if these people aren't involved? You're pulling data from their phone.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

And there's a real reason why Paul would have to get a warrant to do this, because obviously, privacy issues would come up. If you're dropping this imaginary geofence on a location, you're pulling up any data that it registers within that fence area. So I could imagine that people would say, well, what if these people aren't involved? You're pulling data from their phone.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

But in this case, I find it really interesting that the gas station that this car was parked, this Toyota was parked at, was under construction at the time. So Paul's geofence was such a small box, so to speak. It was only in that car and did end up pulling cell phone data from two devices within that car. So it makes sense that...

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

But in this case, I find it really interesting that the gas station that this car was parked, this Toyota was parked at, was under construction at the time. So Paul's geofence was such a small box, so to speak. It was only in that car and did end up pulling cell phone data from two devices within that car. So it makes sense that...

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

that you'd want to go to a judge and have a judge understand the real reason that you want to do it. And it's a great tool.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

that you'd want to go to a judge and have a judge understand the real reason that you want to do it. And it's a great tool.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

And since every cell phone device has a corresponding registration number, the hope here was that investigators would be able to use that information to identify both the shooter and the potential accomplice, the getaway driver.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

And since every cell phone device has a corresponding registration number, the hope here was that investigators would be able to use that information to identify both the shooter and the potential accomplice, the getaway driver.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

Almost a month after the murder, police met with the man at his home.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

Almost a month after the murder, police met with the man at his home.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

The record of texts between the driver and Ivan also had the exact address of the drop-off location, the Holiday Inn Express. After his client had exited the vehicle, the driver had first been told to wait there for about 10 minutes, a window of time during which Ivan could have made his first contact with Jamal and his friends. But then it seems the plan changed.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

The record of texts between the driver and Ivan also had the exact address of the drop-off location, the Holiday Inn Express. After his client had exited the vehicle, the driver had first been told to wait there for about 10 minutes, a window of time during which Ivan could have made his first contact with Jamal and his friends. But then it seems the plan changed.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

And while he might not have known exactly what occurred in the hotel parking lot, according to the driver, his client, Ivan, was exhibiting very suspicious behavior.

Anatomy of Murder
Wrong Place, Wrong Time (Jamal Drummond)

And while he might not have known exactly what occurred in the hotel parking lot, according to the driver, his client, Ivan, was exhibiting very suspicious behavior.