Scott Wolter

Exactly.

Yeah.

Very good, by the way.

Nobody ever gets that.

Instead of saying, I don't know, he said, oh, it's a hoax.

That set a very important and, frankly, tragic precedent for what would happen with scholars going forward, because we now know they had no clue what they were looking at.

And they just weren't able to admit that.

And as silly as that seems, having dealt with that type of academic.

I understand it.

It's a mentality that is really rooted in some silly things, I'll say.

No, I...

Actually, that was intentional.

No, it wasn't at all.

I'm kidding.

No.

So the stone or the tree was seen by over a dozen witnesses, and they signed affidavits.

And basically, there were ranges from like six inches or...

what was it, like 15 years was the youngest estimate, the oldest was 75 years old, but the range is somewhere between 25 to 30 years old, which was before Olaf immigrated to this country, because of course he was accused of carving it, right?

And so, but there's more to that history that I usually don't go down this rabbit hole.

But when settlers came into the area, mostly Scandinavian settlers that came from Sweden, Norway, and up in the North country, when they came over here, they went to a climate that they were used to, right?