Seamus Ong

Yeah, so I suppose one of the things really, like you're going around and you're looking for different birds, you know, there's different species, you know, of them.

And I think for a lot of the new members as well, that's what they've kind of almost described it as.

What they've grown up with, right?

Yeah, and they would have...

Possibly just they'd be looking at the different birds and they would maybe say, oh, my gosh, this is actually like Pokemon.

We see a blue tit and then we're looking for, let's say, the grey partridge.

You know, there's always these different species and it's almost something that they can maybe relate to a bit.

So, no, I think basically, as Niall was saying, very much like you can...

there's always different ways you can just go out and I think maybe even just start by listening to the birdsong, you know, when we were going around living our daily lives, you know, we can then we're constantly immersed in nature.

There's always birds around and even getting kind of just starting by appreciating that for ourselves anyway, you know, as I said, we've the young birdwatchers group, a group for young people that are interested in birdwatching.

And it's very much a welcoming group as well, you know, and we just kind of go out and you don't have to be an expert.