Sean Aylmer

And this is a really large super fund.

Should I be insisting that that fund, that my super fund, disclose exactly where my retirement savings is going, more specifically rather than the broad categories I'm getting at the moment?

Okay.

One of the things, when we talk about ethical investing, as you said at the front, it's different to different people.

Are there certain categories, and I suppose I'm thinking of weapons and tobacco, which broadly most people don't want to be involved in, but there must be a lot of grey areas, shall I say?

What's the website?

Because I'm actually going to do that because my fund has been named.

What is the website, Barry?

Keep it nice and simple.

One of the things, ethical investing, which has changed in my time covering it, 10 years ago it was...

in some ways, more black and white.

You're in or you're out.

Now, there's much more of an argument that big investors partaking in change, and this is particularly around fossil fuels, oil and gas companies, we can be part of it.

The superannuation fund of the institutional investor will argue, we can be part of the conversation to shift to renewables, as an example.

How do I think about that?

And I mean, I know it's a personal thing, but I always wonder whether that's right, whether I'm actually better to be with a fund who argues that they're part of the conversation and that's better than not being there at all.

What happens if the super companies don't be better at disclosing?

I know the report talks about younger Australians being much more willing to switch funds if they discover investments that they disagree with.

Do you think that in the end the members will force the super funds to behave better when it comes to disclosure?

Barry, thanks for talking to Fear and Greed.