Sean Callagy

Before I do, I just want to honor Dan Fleischman.

We don't know each other without Dan.

And Mike Vesuvio for being such an amazing friend and co-creator.

100%, yeah.

Let's hear it for Dan and Mike.

And then, so as you were sharing this, what really landed for me in our discussion with Bruce is how it's not not what you had to begin to think about when you stepped into the world of Marvel.

And I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, that Marvel was selling 5,000

Iron Man comics per month.

Just think of what would, if you would have thought the number Marvel was selling per month of Iron Man when the Iron Man, before the Iron Man movies were made, but just a few years before, if you would have thought it was a lot more than 5,000 comics a month, say yes.

Me too.

I would have, somebody asked me like, hey, how many Iron Man comics a month do you think Marvel was selling?

I don't know, my gut reaction might have been 100,000 a month.

You know, something like that.

The only thing that reached that level back then was X-Men and Spider-Mans because of the movies.

So you have this property, this ecosystem of $5,000 a month.

Obviously, if people are reading Iron Man comics monthly...

They have a pretty deep love for Iron Man and a pretty clear perspective on what Iron Man should be to them.

And now you're going to decide what movie to make and you're stepping in and you have to build something for Marvel.

How do you select Iron Man?

How do you take something that only 5,000 people per month are reading, take this to make money, honor these folks, not make them enemies?