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Sean Carroll

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
10994 total appearances

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Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

It's all about cleaning clogged drains.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

Bruce the Plumber, who in a hilariously cartoonish, over-the-top Australian accent, goes to various kitchens and restaurants and things like that and finds clogs and cleans grease traps and basically pulls out these ugly messes that have accumulated over the years in the pipes.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

You might think...

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

This is somewhat of a niche kind of activity to have as a popular YouTube channel, but it's not just Kate McKinnon's favorite.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

Every one of these videos that he puts up gets millions of hits.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

They are intrinsically interesting to, I guess, a whole bunch of people.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

And that does warm my heart because maintenance of our world is kind of important, right?

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

Fixing things is something that has an endless fascination for a lot of people.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

Of course, it also has a repulsion for a lot of people.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

Plenty of people don't have anything to do.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

with doing important maintenance.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

That's why these drains get clogged in the first place.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

But you know, we live in a society that is increasingly interconnected, complicated, hierarchical, networked in various ways.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

There's a lot of infrastructure, a lot of stuff that needs to be kept up from our cars to our kitchens to our houses to our

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

electronic infrastructure through which you're listening to this podcast right now.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

And there's just a simple fact about the laws of nature and the second law of thermodynamics that things are going to break.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

There's a lot more ways to be broken than to be in good working order.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

And what we do to keep things from breaking is we maintain them in various ways.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

You can think of the act of maintenance as generating entropy somewhere in the universe in the service of lowering it somewhere else, lowering it either in some mechanical thing or some electronic thing or in a biological thing.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
341 | Stewart Brand on Maintenance as an Organizing Principle

Biology can be thought of as a set of systems that have solved the problem of self-maintenance, at least to some accuracy.