Sean Carroll

So I read, I picked up on his reluctance in the same way that you're picking up on it.

But I just read it as he was not focusing on that.

That's just not what he was caring about for this discussion.

It's perfectly legit for us to care about it, to be interested in it.

But that's why we talked to lots of different people.

here on the podcast in lots of different areas because I'm not trying to present.

I do want every podcast to have the property that the guest gets a chance to put forward their best arguments and their point of view.

But I don't ask that the listeners accept the point of view as the truth.

You should figure out what the truth is from the overall impression over many, many podcast episodes and hopefully many, many things that are not episodes of Mindscape at all.

Marek Borik says, I'm curious how you handle your personal finances and if you invest.

Do you have someone who does it for you?

Are you handpicking a handful of stocks, bonds, ETFs yourself?

I don't even know what an ETF is.

Are you maxing your 401k and Roth IRA and have any guests you've had on the podcast change your attitude towards your personal finance?

So I'm pretty minimalist about personal finance, honestly.

I'm a big believer in being responsible.

And Jennifer, my wife, who as a longtime freelancer had to be super responsible, right?

Because you don't know from month to month what your income is going to be.

We tend to be pretty cautious.

So I'm a big believer that people should put as much as they reasonably can into retirement funds or savings or something like that.