Sean Carroll

So let's talk about, I wanted to get on the table, you know, the various critiques of liberalism, because that was in part what inspired you to start Liberal Currents.

Let's do a little bit better job at giving the positive.

Let's do the positive.

Yeah.

All of a sudden you do first your elevator pitch.

That last point you made, it reminds me of one of the things I'm thinking myself about these days, which is there's something called econophysics where you apply ideas from physics to economics and there's equilibria and entropy and things like that.

But I think there should be more politico-physics.

And I think that one of the great things about liberalism is it's a bottom-up collective kind of thing.

You have a bunch of people with crazy ideas running around, bumping into each other, interacting.

And that's actually a much better way to come up with good ideas and good arrangements than to have one wise person try to set everything down once and for all.

One of the other unpopular tweets I put up back in the day was I had a poll.

Would you prefer to have your country governed by – I proposed it in an intentionally provocative way – by the opinions of the mob or be led by a single wise benevolent person?

And it was two-thirds, a single person.

Right.

And this is my Twitter feed.

Like this wasn't the end of the thing.

And so and I point out in a response, I'm like, you know, you people are not in favor of democracy.

And people said, oh, no, you said that they would be wise and benevolent.

And I had to say, like, that's what they always say.

It doesn't always turn out that way.