Sean Dooley

ranges, where there's suitable eucalypts on ridges with hollows.

But in the winter, in the colder months, like the flame robin and a lot of other birds, they do tend to head down onto the plains and you'll see them turning up even in country towns or

suburbs of places like Melbourne and they're more common in Canberra at that time of year when you think about it that's the fact that those gang gangs were there birds express the landscape of what's going on in the landscape and the fact that they were there so late in the season

You think, why is that?

You look at the weather that we've had this year and it's been an extremely warm, late sort of autumn that's gone right to the edge of winter and the temperatures have been well above average.

So, you know, you don't need necessarily to have the facts and figures in front of you.

The birds are suggesting what's already going on in the landscape and they've been doing that forever.

And certainly birds have been telling us about the impacts of climate change long before us very slow to understand humans have been able to pick it up.

Just from what Jonah was saying a little bit earlier about how friends of his say if they find a certain bird means they're going to have a good day.

I'd actually say finding the bird means it is a good day.

Yeah, and what's so great through this podcast and so many other things that are popping up at the moment is that for a long time, I think everybody who was into birds always thought they were the only birder in the village, but it's certainly not the case.

And we now have this connected community who are all out there noticing birds and sharing what they notice, which is just such a fabulous step forward for all of us.