Sean Ellis

I just had my 20th anniversary.

Two girls, 17 and 15.

Oh, wow.

And how old are you, Sean?

I'm 46.

No, I think it's good to understand.

You know, I used to read a bunch of biographies on really successful people and I found them really inspiring.

But then you read like Ted Turner, multiple suicide attempts.

I mean, I might be wrong there, so I'm not necessarily wrong.

Fake news.

But I think I read that he – what you find is that a lot of these guys are kind of miserable once they get to that level of success.

And so I definitely feel like I could be more successful in life if that was the only thing that happened, more successful financially.

But yeah, I mean I like to get out surfing a couple days a week.

I just –

So it's a marathon and quality of life is important.

And for me, I do this not for money.

I do this for I'm just really passionate about it and trying to figure growth out and being able to work with companies to

figure it out and give them software and give them conferences and give them training and just, you know, kind of collaboratively we're, we're just so early in figuring out how companies grow.

And so it's, uh, I, it's just like a privilege for me to be able to do these things.

And of course, when I took in venture capital, that means I have to try to build a big valuable business, but, um,