Sean Hayes

Is that a precursor to Law & Order?

Am I being a dummy?

The great Dennis Farina.

Were you a damsel in distress or were you a bad person?

No, Julia.

Yeah, catching your drift.

So then you were able to sort of start your work and start to gain momentum before...

there was huge pressure on you to sort of pay a lot of rent and to really like declare this is what my career is going to be.

So you were still young enough to kind of like dip your toe in it and see if you get any traction.

Is that kind of how things started?

Oh, my God.

And you stayed with him for a while?

Yeah?

And then what was the project that gave you the kind of momentum that would push you into sort of like, well, I need not pursue other things.

I think this might work out for at least a few years.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Do you long for those days of sort of the naivete and sort of just like, well, just kind of just doing the work and having fun and playing make-believe and not being aware of sort of the machinations of this interesting business?

Or do you like how complicated this business is?

Well, in certain areas, in the areas that are completely unpredictable and without any sort of meritocracy, I guess.