Sean Hayes

I'll see you guys at the mixing studio.

So that's a good one.

I'm going to start calling you Willie.

Thanks, man.

Yeah, you're my little pixie.

Get over here.

Was there a band that was really doing it when you guys got started that you kind of had your eye on and said, boy, if we could kind of go in that direction, we'd have something.

That's where we want to go.

At that time?

Does it matter more or less for a song to have...

a long uh life um of like would you rather a song be super duper memorable because of its because of its tune because of its melody or because of the words that it says like you know charles you were saying it's like you know it's just like a couple of chords here and some words that you might you know like what what is more important to you of the staying power of a song the melody or the or the words that what you're trying to say you know does it matter

Where's the most surprising place you have found a dedicated fan base?

What corner of the world surprised you?

We found that in Iran we have a big audience.

We were like, what?

He's got the greatest name in the world.

Yeah, was it just a text that said, you up?

Like we're stoked.

Yeah, but I'm sure that there's still that other element, which is much more sort of delicate and nuanced, which is,

I don't want to be the one to say, hey, guys, should we do this?