Sean Hayes

And you go in, and you then audition for all the execs at the network, and then you're waiting, and they decide whether or not you got the part.

So...

They have you so over the barrel, you never realize you're never not over the barrel in that process.

And it's really uninspiring, and it's a very specific thing to get good at that, to be able to block that part of it out, to then go and deliver at the final moment.

It's... You're kind of... Torture.

So, David, your process is you're a little conflicted about doing a TV series, but you want to do it.

And it's a great paycheck, so you go in and you sign the contract, you do the test, and then you do the pilot, right?

And so now they've got the executed thing.

And then the network, sorry again for Tracy, then they decide from all their pilots what shows are going to make it on the air next year.

So you're waiting for a month or two for that.

Yeah.

And then they go, great, your show is happening, you're in it, and we've got you for five years.

And then what happens a lot is you go, oh my God, this is so great, I'm going to make $20,000 or $25,000 an episode.

And then two years in, if you're lucky enough that it's going, you're like, hey man, I deserve way more than $20,000.

David, so you know that process, right?

So you're there and you're doing X-Files and you guys come out of the gate pretty hot.

It's kind of a hit.

Who was running Fox at the time when you guys were there?

Do you remember?

Was it Garth Anciar?