Sean Hayes

How did you go from that to that?

What was that leap from your, what I've read, a very, very humble beginnings?

But I imagine that Dundee, Scotland at that time was a tough place to grow up, yeah?

As a Canadian, let me say good luck to you trying to explain it to them, Brian.

Well, they don't understand.

And I'm not—I don't consider myself really anything, but I do understand that we have to take care— we're only as strong—the idea we're only as strong as our weakest link, and that there has to be a net, because once you—

If there is not a sort of a social net, then the whole thing falls apart and it sort of decays from underneath.

If you have extreme poverty, which we do in this country, then the entire thing is resting.

The foundation of our society is rotted from underneath, you know?

Absolutely.

So then you have this love of cinema.

You're going to the theater all the time.

And then you went to, if I'm right, you went to theater school in Scotland.

They think that you're making these names up.

I know, I know.

They're actors that resonate.

Pardon?

You guys know Hamish Linklater.

I know, I know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.