Sean Kelly
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Okay, guys, Chris Klein here.
It's his 1500th or so interview.
So my most interviewed guest of all time.
Thanks for coming, man.
Hey, thanks for having me.
Yeah, we're going to talk Bitcoin today.
Bitcoin IRA, that's your company, right?
Yes.
Could you explain for those that don't know what that is?
I've seen some crazy stats.
I'd love to see if this is true, but the average retirement account is like super low these days when people retire.
Yeah.
Is there a minimum they got to contribute if they want to do a Bitcoin IRA?
When I first became an entrepreneur, I had a really old account and he told me to set up a Roth IRA.
Absolutely.
Good accountant.
Yeah.
Well, I donated or not donated.
I put money in the first like three, four years, but then I started thinking about it with the inflation and I can't pull out till 65.
Yep.
Is this even worth putting 6K a year?
Okay, so I was misguided.
I didn't know what the funds in the Roth could control.
I was confused when I saw it because I thought, wait, did he run for senator?
Next year, you're 40.
Yeah, I'm eligible.
Yeah, I know you started with gold and silver IRAs, right?
You really did.
I mean, it's only 10 years in, but you're going to change a lot of lives, if not already.
Who convinced you in 17 to get into Bitcoin?
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As the price of Bitcoin keeps climbing higher and higher, does your conviction go up or down?
Yeah, if you buy one now.
I just had on Michael Turpin, who you probably know.
Met him in Puerto Rico years ago.
Yeah, and he was talking about what you're talking about with the scarcity.
Only 5% of the population owns Bitcoin right now.
But what happens when that gets to 15% to 20%?
Gemini at Bitcoin conference?
And now Coinbase announced a credit card.
So I'm excited.
That's a good way for the average person in DCA.
I'm sure you talk about Bitcoin every day.
I don't think she'll need to go.
Amazing parenting to teach your kids crypto at age five, you said?
Yeah.
Well, four.
Phenomenal.
I hope to do the same.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I'll probably set them up with a wallet as soon as they can understand.
What do you think if you had a ballpark inflation percentage-wise actually is per year?
What percentage of your net worth is in crypto?
I'm too young for either.
Yeah.
I'm a little scarred on staking because I was caught in Celsius.
I was caught in Anchor and I was caught in Gemini Earn.
So I went 0 for 3.
That was a rough time.
Anchor, I'll never get back.
Those are the rooms I try to be in.
But the AI stuff is nuts.
I came across last night scrolling a channel that does AI debates.
Metaverse was a crazy bubble too.
Celsius was a rough one for a lot of people.
I'm sorry for that.
Yeah, they just sent their third payout last week.
So I only lost 20%.
That's not terrible.
Which isn't bad.
That's not terrible at all.
Yeah, compared to like.
I think FTX might have paid out too.
I'm sure you lost a lot of clients around that time, right?
Crypto Twitter is an interesting space, man.
It gets toxic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm a fan of like the top 10, but there's some really good ones at the top 100 too.
That are sleepers.
Yeah.
Some of these coins have...
Thanks, man.
Anything else you want to close off with here?
Hold on.
We're going home, guys.
All right.
Well, thanks for coming.
We'll link the site below.
See you guys next time.
Peace.
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Okay, guys, we got a friendly little debate here today, conversation debate.
We got Beck Lover, returning guest, and a new guest to the show, Michael Jones.
Thank you, both of you, for coming, especially you, Michael.
It's your anniversary, so appreciate the time, man.
Yeah, and I think the core of this will be just talking about how Christians and Muslims can work together, right?
That's where we should start this thing.
How do I spell that?
It has eight verses.
You said verse six?
Verse six, yeah.
It's pulled up right here.
Indeed, those who disbelieve among the people of the world.
They are the worst of creatures.
They are the worst of creatures.
Let me try to pull up a full verse.
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It's sleek, portable, and honestly, I don't go anywhere without it.
I'm not a scholar on his level.
And again, please double check everything I say.
Really?
No.
Chachi Batu said, depends on the time period and region you're studying.
Most scholars conclude that religion itself is not the root cause.
Power, land, resources, and politics are usually the drivers with religion used as justification.
I did stop check that, yeah.
Can you pull this out, Kyla?
But that's more of the Old Testament, I guess.
Jesus never said that woman must cover.
Head covering teaching in the New Testament comes from Paul.
Citing historians is a flippant fact.
There's plenty of historians.
Who treated people better throughout history, Christians or Muslims?
And this is chatty between you guys, so don't take it up.
The summary is, in medieval and early modern history, Christians generally lived more securely under Muslim rule than under Christian rule.
Under Christianity, Christians often faced pogroms, expulsions, and systemic anti-Semitism.
Under Islam, they had to pay extra taxes and accept second-class status, but often prospered culturally and economically, especially compared to their treatment in Christian Europe.
We'll link their socials below, guys.
Check them out.
I'll see you on the next debate.
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Okay, guys, we are in Las Vegas.
We got someone as tall as me today.
We got Luke Thomas in the building.
What's up, man?
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, I know you've transitioned into politics about four months ago, right?
Yeah, give or take, something like that.
Sometime around the new year.
Yeah, what sparked that move?
Because prior to that, you were talking about fighting combat sports, right?
When you were covering sports, did you ever feel like you were scared to speak up about politics?
That's why I actually respect Stephen A. Smith because he's taken that leap too recently.
He's covering a lot of politics.
I don't know that for a fact, but just based on how the world works, that would be my assessment.
I mean, yeah, let's be honest.
Anyone signed to Disney, you saw what happened to Shannon Sharp.
They are going to make the cut when they need to.
But that wasn't a speech issue, right?
Yeah, yeah, that's different.
I can see that.
What do you think of the whole debate culture?
Like, are you a fan of, like, stuff like Trish Morgan going to places to debate, setting up spots to debate up?
You know what?
It's a good question.
Yeah, I'm learning that now as I get into the space and start moderating debates.
It's tough to moderate some of these.
It could be a challenge.
It's tough.
Do you see yourself going down that route, or are you going to stick more on the commentary side?
Yeah.
I think structures needed more than ever, especially with, you know, what happened yesterday, rest in peace to Charlie Kirk.
Yeah.
That was terrible.
Awful.
It does.
Did it influence you to like speak out more, speak out less?
Did it change any of your beliefs seeing something like that?
Respect.
Yeah, seeing some of the TikTok videos of these young people celebrating, it just broke my heart.
Yeah, well said.
Crazy times we're in.
I know you're in D.C.
now.
How's that been with the National Guard moving in?
Do you feel pretty safe?
Are you on edge lately?
There are police.
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It's sleek, portable, and honestly, I don't go anywhere without it.
Every five feet.
Wow, that's interesting.
So when you see him saying he wants to spread the National Guard to other cities, that's concerning to you?
That's extremely concerning.
How could it not be?
Interesting.
Wow.
Because I know after the Charlotte stabbing on the, was that the bus or the train?
I think it was the bus.
Bus.
They were trying to move the guard over there too, no?
Yeah, that's a good point, though.
You don't hear the residents there speaking out, you know.
Agreed.
The Israel-Palestine stuff is a really hot topic.
Were you pretty outspoken on that early on?
deserve a thoughtful answer but it just goes to point like they they have been trying to raise awareness about the inhumanity of their condition and it does not appear to me that the world has done a lot of listening it's a tricky topic as a content creator because i make my living off this show and um i've had on some of the most polarized people in the world but this specific topic i've gotten banned off platforms for speaking about is that right for even moderating debates about
Are you even moderating debates about it?
I'm banned on TikTok.
I'm shadow banned on multiple platforms.
Absolutely.
Um, you were on Rogan in 2020.
Yeah.
I don't know if he was covering politics like he was, like he is now back then, but... Um, I... You know, that's a good question.
Got it.
Okay.
Well, now there's this term called the Rogan sphere.
I'm sure you heard of it.
And he just platforms a lot of these people.
Like it has your opinion on him changed, I guess, over time.
When I was growing up, there was no mention of politics in my household.
Like, my whole life.
Really?
Like, the most, I guess, we would say, like, who did you vote for?
Like, that was it.
Like, we weren't talking politics in the house.
Wow, that is crazy.
Because when you think about how much data these social media platforms and these AI companies now have on us, they pretty much can predict who we're going to vote for based off what you're saying.
Do you pay attention to these Palantir, I know you're not into conspiracy theories, but these Palantir like mass surveillance theories?
A lot of people fell for that one.
Wow.
That is nuts.
Yeah.
They got me on that one.
I'm not going to lie.
The reason why I think is because as a business owner, I'm all about optimization.
Sure.
I'm all about cutting costs.
So they really sold me on that narrative.
Right.
Do you think there should be overall more transparency when it comes to taxes where the dollars go to?
Sure.
So we agree on that.
I've had a few on Michelle, actually.
Is Mike Huckabee one?
I'll try to get more involved.
I know local politics actually matters more.
My mom used to be out here.
Yeah, man.
Some say they still are.
Who knows?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know how to answer that.
Yeah, we'll leave that one to the viewers.
All right, what else we got?
Let's end off on some lighthearted stuff.
The Rock.
So did you see his massive transformation?
No, which one?
He looked really skinny last week.
Oh, the second one?
Yeah, I thought he was decent in that.
I didn't like him in that superhero movie, Black Adam.
Black Adam.
I thought that was trash.
Black Adam was real terrible.
I'm sure they've invented ways to get around some of these tests by now, too.
Yeah.
When you say innocent people, um, Ryan Garcia comes to mind.
Are you kind of grouping him in that conversation?
Yeah, that's nuts.
And it's such a good point.
When you get cleared, no one gives a shit.
It's too late.
It's way too late.
Yeah.
And you and I talked to a lot of fighters.
We both know back in the day, everyone was on them.
If you had to guess, because LeBron gets accused of being on steroids, if you had to make an educated guess on if he's on it or not, what would you say?
You'll never catch me in one.
Yeah, I noticed the fight enthusiasts hate that sport.
Yeah, and I think most people just don't care.
You like it?
I like it in the sense of entertainment.
I don't view it as a sport, but it's really good networking.
I'll admit, Dana does a good job of bringing people in that room.
Is that right?
That's how I got Andrew Tate on the show.
Is that right?
I've met Theo Vaughn there.
There's all sorts of interesting people there.
So I go to networks.
Okay.
And have fun.
I mean, it's, I'm not going to lie.
Some of the knockouts are tough to watch.
Like being there in person, one of the guys was on the floor for two minutes and it's hard to watch.
Um, but people just like big slaps.
I don't know.
Like the energy in the room just goes crazy.
It does feel like a bit of Russian roulette because the guy that goes first has a huge advantage and it's based off a coin flip.
Oh, is that right?
Yeah.
I wasn't even sure how the rules worked.
Yeah, the guy who goes first, it's based off a coin flip.
And usually, if you're a good slapper, you're not going to get out on the first slap.
Well, Luke, this has been fun, man.
Where can people find your show and keep up with you?
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See you.
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I think that was before 1985.
I think that was before 1985.
I think that was before 1985.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I respect Gary Vee a lot, but he says a lot of shit and then he'll clip the stuff that went right.
I respect Gary Vee a lot, but he says a lot of shit and then he'll clip the stuff that went right.
I respect Gary Vee a lot, but he says a lot of shit and then he'll clip the stuff that went right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We keep it real. That's a trick to get you to. It is. Yeah, you have that.
We keep it real. That's a trick to get you to. It is. Yeah, you have that.
We keep it real. That's a trick to get you to. It is. Yeah, you have that.
I agree.
I agree.
I agree.
I'm not benchmarking myself against some of those dudes. I get it.
I'm not benchmarking myself against some of those dudes. I get it.
I'm not benchmarking myself against some of those dudes. I get it.
100%.
100%.
100%.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.